Discussioni utente:Astirmays

Da Vikidia, l'enciclopedia libera dagli 8 ai 13 anni

Astirmays, Benvenuto su Vikidia !

Ti do il benvenuto su Vikidia, l'enciclopedia dedicata ai lettori dagli 8 ai 13 anni

Benvenuti su it:Vikidia.--Macassar 19:25, 9 gen 2012 (CET)

Admins?[modifica wikitesto]


Il semble qu'il n'y ait pas encore de page recensant les admins ici ; peux-tu me donner la liste des utilisateurs, en dehors de toi, qui sont admins (temporaires ou permanents)? (en dehors de Lolo7433 (d · c · b)?)

Y a-t-il eu des admins déjà élus par la communauté, ou, pour le moment, seulement des admins nommés?

Serait-il possible que tu me nommes, provisoirement, admin ici, afin que je puisse procéder à 2-3 modifs (interwiki, page principale...)


-Fraf (discussioni) 10:09, 29 mag 2013 (CEST)

[1] Vivi-1 (discussioni) 10:24, 29 mag 2013 (CEST)
Si possible, j'ai déjà bloqué des spambots mais pas tous, donc si quelqu'un peut m'aider à prendre les outils temporairement :). Rome2 (discussioni) 13:23, 29 mag 2013 (CEST)
Grazzie mille! -Fraf (discussioni) 10:35, 30 mag 2013 (CEST)

Vikidia russo[modifica wikitesto]

Astirmays Ciao, solo una breve nota: si può mettere InterWiki ru sulla Pagina Principale? Perché ho ​​notato che non c'era.

Amlt, Super NONO (discussioni) 19:33, 21 lug 2013 (CEST)

PS : J'ai essayé de traduire, désolé si tu ne comprends pas.

Re:"lasciare lo spazio agli utenti giovanissimi"[modifica wikitesto]

Thank you for the answer.
I will read that page and translate it as soon as possbile. Where can I put the Italian translation? --Daniele Pugliesi (discussioni) 20:09, 29 set 2013 (CEST)

On a separate page Vikidia:something I guess ! Astirmays (discussioni) 07:49, 30 set 2013 (CEST)

Re: Autocandidatura per funzione di amministratore[modifica wikitesto]

Thank you. I will do my best to help this project to take off. :) --Daniele Pugliesi (discussioni) 19:58, 20 ott 2013 (CEST)

Domanda[modifica wikitesto]

Ciao,Astirmays:ho letto che non sono ammessi i copia e incolla da Wikipedia:é permesso invece fare copia e incolla ma poi cambiare le parole?

(en)Hi,Astirmays:I read we can't copy and paste articles of Wikipedia:can we copy,paste and finally change the words?

(fr)Salut,Astirmays:j'ai lu que nous ne pouvons pas copier les articles de Wikipédia:on peut copier mais après changer les mots?--Toadino2日本 Ti vaai funghi? 19:58, 20 ott 2013 (CEST)

Hi Toadino2, that's a rule we decided later on fr.vikidia. I guess that you can discuss it with the other users here ! It is here : fr:Aide:Wikipédia et Vikidia. The license allows wikipedia's content to be reused, then question is to choose the best way to build a valuable content for Vikidia, It may be difficult to work on a long text from Wikipedia to rewrite it. That's not an absolute ban yet ! Astirmays (discussioni) 20:14, 20 ott 2013 (CEST)

Grazie del benvenuto[modifica wikitesto]

Grazie del benvenuto. Subito un piccolo problema: s: rinvia a wikisource inglese. Per quella italiana qual'è la sintassi?Mizar (discussioni) 22:07, 20 ott 2013 (CEST)

Vikidia russo[modifica wikitesto]

Astirmays Ciao, solo una breve nota: si può mettere InterWiki ru sulla Pagina Principale? Perché ho ​​notato che non c'era.

Amlt, Super NONO (discussioni) 19:33, 21 lug 2013 (CEST)

PS : J'ai essayé de traduire, désolé si tu ne comprends pas.

J'ai compris ;-) et c'est fait ! Astirmays (discussioni) 20:08, 21 lug 2013 (CEST)
Re Astirmays ciao! Se si potesse fare InterWiki sulla Front Page ru, sarà bello! Face-wink.svg Super NONO (discussioni) 13:09, 10 nov 2013 (CET)
P.-S. : Quali sono le lezioni?

Riconferma[modifica wikitesto]

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Ciao Astirmays !

Ti ricordiamo che è in corso la riconferma annuale del tuo status di amministratore. Se vuoi, puoi pure lasciare un commento nella discussione sopra linkata. Buon lavoro!

--Sepp.P 22:26, 24 dic 2013 (CET)

Re:Burocrate[modifica wikitesto]

Thank you very much :) --Dry Martini ma ai piccoli solo aranciata 21:34, 7 gen 2014 (CET)

User rights[modifica wikitesto]

Hi. You had "redundant" rights which I removed (usually they don't cause problems, but some minor issues were reported and usually it is better to limit this type of extra load for servers): autopatrol and patroller flags are included in sysop, so I removed them. You should not have "lost" any function. If you have, my beg, you can reassign yourself the permissions :) Have a nice day :) --Dry Martini ma ai piccoli solo aranciata 11:50, 8 gen 2014 (CET)

admin mailing list[modifica wikitesto]

Hi. I was discussing this with Vivi but he said you should at least be informed. I set up on an external website a private mailing list for it.vikidia's sysops, as we use them a lot on WMF and I figured out it could be useful to discuss delicate matters and other issues which is not efficient to publish on the site. I didn't spread it around yet because I wanted you to know first. It would be a temporary measure until "official" vikidia mailing lists (which I understand to be on the way) become operational. Admins will have to read a disclaimer page on vikidia before subscribing and will be warned that list members will see their address. Can I spread it around? Obviously, all admins and bureaucrats would be on the list (you too :) ) --Dry Martini ma ai piccoli solo aranciata 11:34, 10 gen 2014 (CET)

Actually there is several mailing lists about Vikidia (none of them being much active, most discussions are on the wikis themselves). The oldest one is [email protected], for peoples interested in Vikidia, it was created before the Vikidia Association were created. Then there is 2 (or even 3) mailing lists for the association : "sympathisant" members, that have registred but have not paid the 2 € membership fee, another for "full" member, and another for the board (Consiglio di amministrazione, 3 members).
I have nothing against your idea, since the mailing lists I mentioned are not really designed to deal with directs matters of the wikis. Nevertheless, we would have to think about how we deal with all these lists, if some are to be merged... Astirmays (discussioni) 22:30, 12 gen 2014 (CET)
Okidoki, let me know if you come up with any "global" mailing list system (like MLs with "vikidia.org" domain). Thanks for answering. --Dry Martini ma ai piccoli solo aranciata 22:47, 12 gen 2014 (CET)

Mailing list degli amministratori[modifica wikitesto]

Ciao. È stata attivata la mailing list riservata agli amministratori. Sei libero di iscriverti (è consigliato ma non obbligatorio). Leggi attentamente la pagina di informazioni prima di iscriverti, poi se sei interessato segui le istruzioni. Se hai un indirizzo diverso dal tuo nome utente conferma l'iscrizione come ti verrà indicato di fare (ti arriverà un messaggio per e-mail con un link per confermare la tua iscrizione) e poi manda un'email alla mailing list indicando il tuo nome utente (per esempio "ciao! sono Dry Martini") è sufficiente :) ). Grazie per l'attenzione! Please contact me if you need any info you can't get from Google Translate :) --Dry Martini ma ai piccoli solo aranciata 10:39, 13 gen 2014 (CET)

Buona Pasqua[modifica wikitesto]

Auguri!!! --SurdusVII 20:30, 19 apr 2014 (CEST)

Francese[modifica wikitesto]

carissimo amico, nlla lingua italiana il termine francese, NON significa lingua francese; ricorda che nella lingua italiana ha più numerosi significati, per dire francese può significare abitante della Francia, oppure cittadino francese, oppure lingua francese, oppure altre termini ci sono.. chiaro?? quindi puoi cancellare il redirect alla lingua francese?? --SurdusVII(LIS) 10:32, 16 nov 2014 (CET)

Ok, d'accord ! Astirmays (discussioni) 19:55, 19 nov 2014 (CET)
Fatto --SurdusVII(LIS) 20:14, 19 nov 2014 (CET)

civiltà minoica[modifica wikitesto]

ciao, sai che esiste una regola che vieta l'importazione di altri siti come in Wikipedia ed altre Vikidia?? forse ti è sfuggita questa regola, comunque ho segnalato il tmp cancella subito, in quanto c'è la violazione del copyright nella en.vikidia.. comunque a giorni in più là li creerò in lingua italiana e con giuste regole per le voci standard in portale di storia.. buona giornata!! --SurdusVII(LIS) 11:47, 3 dic 2014 (CET)

Ciao, actually on Vikidia in French, the rule is not to import content from Wikipedia itself (mostly in French too), yet we don't prohibit importing content from some free resources, as a translation from another Vikidia, Simple English Wikipedia or Wikijunior (not much content in French actually on this one). These time I'm testing importations and translations, mostly on en.vikidia.org to grow its content. It is not some massive importation: I carefully choose the pages to import and rewrite some part of it afterwards, sometime mixing a translation with a few sentences or images of another article. Actually I have also let some articles of it.vikidia be translated and imported in en.vikidia, see : en:Juventus Football Club, en:Turin or en:S.S. Lazio. This article Civiltà minoica actually comes from Wikijunior in English (en:wikibooks:Wikijunior:Ancient Civilizations/Minoans) yet reworked on en.vikidia with an introduction from Simple and images from fr.vikidia. I thought it was a good candidate for a translation in italian (by Duolingo, I can't ask for translation from French to italian). So what do you want here? Astirmays (discussioni) 12:15, 3 dic 2014 (CET)
adesso la voce è migliorata con sezioni ed è buona come voce di qualità.. :) --SurdusVII(LIS) 12:52, 3 dic 2014 (CET)

Image[modifica wikitesto]

In various pages inserted images are not seen (for example: Cuore, Lingua francese, Lucy (Australopitecus), Camarasauridae, but there are others); you can fix it? Thanks.--R5b (discussioni) 16:37, 3 dic 2014 (CET)

About duolingo[modifica wikitesto]

Ciao Astirmays, we have some agreement with Duolingo? Because the policy of duolingo says (see the bold part): « As between us and you, you will own the copyright in any derivative work we create that is a translation of Translation Material you submit provided that you do not make or permit any commercial use of the translation. If you wish to make or permit commercial use of a translation, please contact us. You must have a separate agreement with us that expressly authorizes any commercial use of any translation produced by the Service before any such use occurs. ». --ValterVB (discussioni) 14:47, 6 dic 2014 (CET)

For now I have deleted translated version of Civiltà minoica and obscured the versions. If you have good news about duolingo, I will restore it. --ValterVB (discussioni) 15:35, 6 dic 2014 (CET)
No, I didn't have any direct contact (yet) and any agreement with Duolingo. Actually I had not even thought that the "Terms and Conditions of Service" of Duolingo would exclude content under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 for free translation. Nevertheless, you might be right on a strict reading of it, for the CC-BY-SA 3.0 aloud the commercial use of the content. On the other hand it seems very unlikely to me that the intend of the people who run this website was to exclude free translation of content like ours. Moreover, when you upload a document to translate, you click on a message which reads "Non-commercial - Translation is free for content released under a creative commons license. - Free translation" so you may read that content under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 fits to it. Moreover again, after you have choosen the free translation, you have to "Pick a category that best fits:" Among these category, you can find "Wikipedia", which show as far as I can understand that they consider that CC-BY-SA 3.0 content of Wikipedia fits for free translation. I guess that the wording of the "Terms and Conditions" are designed to avoid free translation for definite commercial use of the content, even if the one that uploads this content would try to conceal his relation with the one that would finally make a commercial use of the translation (they are rather supposed to pay fees for that).
So let me know what you think about that, I won't oppose your view on it if you choose for now not to accept this content, yet I don't think I will stop using Duolingo for Vikidia in English. The best thing would be for sure to have an official rely by Duolingo on that subject (or even better that they facilitate our translation for free), yet I can't say I will contact them right now. Astirmays (discussioni) 22:56, 7 dic 2014 (CET)
Another point in policy of Duolingo that I have read today : « Users within the European Union are not presently allowed to submit materials for translation or translated materials to Duolingo... ». I think that it is better to have an explicit authorization, Vikidia server are in France not in USA. --ValterVB (discussioni) 09:22, 8 dic 2014 (CET)
Well, I guess they don't want right now to be submitted to some European regulation on the internet matters. I don't know what to do with that. That's a pity, there is right now 3 other articles that are ready to be imported on it.vikidia : Theatre of ancient Greece, Elizabeth II, Scientific name. Feel free to help me to write a good message to them so that we can have clear condition for our work. They would be some significant benefits and arguments for them that could be to put forward. For example the fact that Vikidia's article are certainly more simple and then more affordable for many language learner, and the fact that Duolingo was launched or still now, it they expounded that it would help "translate the web" and help to grow the resources in other languages than English. Let's create Discussioni Vikidia:Duolingo and Vikidia:Duolingo. Astirmays (discussioni) 20:07, 8 dic 2014 (CET)
Probably is better to stop momentarily the use of Duolingo, also for other languages, then we must done a request to Duolingo, where we ask to release translation for Vikidia in CC-BY-SA 3.0. I think it is sufficient to add at the bottom of the page like this "Text is available under the CC-BY-SA 3.0" Problem: How Duolingo can verify that translation are for Vikidia project? Possible solution: we provide a list of authorized users to submit material to be translated, and we must indicate the source of the text. I think that request must be done from Association Vikidia. It remains to be seen whether this also solves the problem of European users. Some discussion about these problems: would someone explain to me what is the point of translating wikipedia articles into english? and Why cant EU users submit stuff for translation? (on Duolingo site). --ValterVB (discussioni) 22:44, 8 dic 2014 (CET)
I do agree with ValterVB: since our license permits any use of our articles (including a commercial one), no translated material shall be taken from Duolingo and used on Vikidia without their prior permission. See it this way: they are de facto publishing Duolingo material with CC-SA-NC, licensing Vikidia articles (which are derivative works) as CC-BY-SA is a violation of their license and therefore a copyright infringement. We could of course, and maybe should, get a more general agreement with Duolingo through Association Vikidia on that subject. But we must also solve the "EU issue", which unfortunately doesn't look like a quick one to solve :/ anyway, --Dry Martini ma ai piccoli solo aranciata 23:28, 8 dic 2014 (CET)

Auguri...[modifica wikitesto]

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Auguri di Buon Natale!!! --SurdusVII(LIS) 11:50, 26 dic 2014 (CET)

progetto scn.vikidia[modifica wikitesto]

ciao, ti segnalo questa discussione. buona giornata!! --SurdusVII (dimmi pure!!!) 11:06, 11 mag 2015 (CEST)

per adesso il progetto scn.vikidia è nel cassetto, perchè non abbiamo ancora deciso di avviare il progetto, quindi per ora non ne parliamo, ma in futuro.. quella era un'idea per i piccoli per la scuola in Sicilia :) --SurdusVII (dimmi pure!!!) 10:59, 11 giu 2015 (CEST)

rielezione amminstratore[modifica wikitesto]

Vikidia:Richieste di abilitazione/Amministratore/2/Astirmays‎. --SurdusVII (dimmi pure!!!) 15:14, 23 ago 2015 (CEST)

Wikimania 2016[modifica wikitesto]

Hi, Paolo and I are at the "tenda" at Wikimania 2016, we are looking forward to meet you--Mattruffoni (discussioni) 13:15, 25 giu 2016 (CEST)

Wikimania[modifica wikitesto]

Hi, Matteo and me are in Esino, at tent (Tenda) We are waiting for you.!!!!!!--Maupao (discussioni) 13:22, 25 giu 2016 (CEST)

PON MIUR[modifica wikitesto]

Hi, the link to Project PON is: http://www.istruzione.it/pon/avviso_cittadinanza-creativita.html. I' ve already alerted Wikimedia Italia. I'd would like to know if it.Vikidia can be considered part of Wikimedia Italia. Thank you. --Valeria (discussioni) 09:01, 28 apr 2017 (CEST)

Hi, now it's necessary to have an agreement between Vikidia and my school in Italy, in which I can indicate what we're going to do in this project next year. It would be important that this agreement will be signed by your amministrator in Italy. Could Sirius sign this protocol?? Thank you. Bye. Valeria (discussioni) 22:25, 4 mag 2017 (CEST)

Notifica d'inattivita[modifica wikitesto]

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Ciao Astirmays,
Abbiamo notato che sei assente da Vikidia dal 2 maggio 2017 (300 giorni).
Hai ancora intenzione di mantenere le tue funzioni di amministratore?
Ti preghiamo di comunicarcelo al più presto, altrimenti in data 2 maggio 2018 i tuoi strumenti saranno rimossi da un burocrate.
Cordiali saluti.
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